MT: Colorado already has a system of regulations in place. We
have limited the amount (of marijuana) they can possess. We've forced
them to get a license and update their licenses every year. Just like
with alcohol, if localities have "community standards" on where they
allow businesses to operate ... they can say we'll only have medical
marijuana dispensaries on these streets. But are they restricting
access for people who are guaranteed under the state constitution the
use of this medicine? In Greeley, they've banned dispensaries outright.
If you live in Greeley . . . where do you go?
DH: Why shouldn't government regulate medical marijuana much like it regulates alcohol and pharmaceuticals?
MT: They should. All marijuana being grown for medical
purposes, if they're following state law, is being grown in Colorado by
a licensed caregiver. Every person is registering with the state of
Colorado — that's regulation. Every patient is getting a license.
We
don't even require people who use Oxycontin on a daily basis to get a
license with the state. These are people whose kids could get that
Oxycontin and die.
Opponents will say so many young men are using medical marijuana.
That's not a negative consequence of medical marijuana. That's an
aspect of it. Do they care how many young men are being prescribed
narcotics for pain issues? Colorado is one of a handful of states where
prescription drugs outweigh traffic accidents as the No. 1 cause of
accidental deaths. Why isn't [Attorney General] John Suthers concerned
about that?
DH: Do you really think everyone who has a medical marijuana permit actually has a chronic illness or debilitating disease?
MT: They do according to a licensed physician. When voters
approved this, they said if a licensed physician believes that
marijuana will improve your quality of life in dealing with one of
these conditions, you are entitled to use it, and he's entitled to
recommend it to you. In every circumstance I'm aware of, a physician
has recommended it.
DH: But isn't there a chance that some doctors believe in
legalizing marijuana and are just using this law as an end-run toward
legalization?
MT: There are doctors who believe in marijuana being legal
because they're aware of the physical effects of it and the science
surrounding it. Whether they perceive this as an end-around, I
disagree. They don't have a vested interest in legalizing it because in
theory, if you have doctors specializing in medical marijuana
recommendations, those only exist when it's medical. There are these
news stories that sensationalize that X percent [of permits] are
written by these five doctors. If a doctor says "I don't want to" [give
you medical marijuana], where do you go? To a physician that you know
agrees that this could be beneficial to you. So it's not that strange.
DH: Why is public sentiment shifting toward legalization?
MT: People are becoming more aware that marijuana is far
safer than alcohol and poses very little if any serious consequences
for our society and those who use it.
DH: You mean it has nothing to do with pot-smoking baby boomers coming of age and having children and changing social norms?
MT: There's been more public discussion of late than ever
before. There's more medical research into marijuana than any other
substance in the world. We know the effect it has on the lungs and we
know the effect it has on the brain. The only area where there's still
some uncertainty is the effect it has on a young person's developing
brain. There's no conclusive evidence that it could be harmful. It
could be, but we do know it doesn't have long-term effects on the adult
brain or lungs.
DH: It doesn't seem like a good idea to inhale anything into your lungs, so why not put marijuana into a pill form or a brownie?
MT: Anytime you consume marijuana orally or as an edible, you
don't know when it's going to take effect. If you smoke it, it's
immediately in your blood stream. You can tell how much you've had,
whether you need more or if you've done too much. If you eat it, it
takes hours to feel the effects and at that point it might be too much.
The future is vaporization. You basically heat marijuana to the
point where it releases the chemicals and you inhale vapors. It never
combusts so there's no smoke. There's never been a documented case of a
marijuana- only smoker acquiring lung cancer as a result. Never. Not
one.
DH: With the growing number of dispensaries, do you worry about people getting low-quality marijuana?
MT: We have PBR [Pabst Blue Ribbon] drinkers and scotch drinkers.
DH: Yeah, but people choose that.
MT: Just like with alcohol, there's beer, there's wine,
there's spirits, there's different types of beer from low quality to
high quality. With marijuana, there's all sorts of different varieties.
DH: Do people in dispensaries know what they're doing?
MT: They want to help out the people who are coming there.
One way to do that is self regulation and quality control. These people
are doing their own research. They ask patients, "How did this make you
feel? Did this help your condition? Did this help with nausea?" They
document this so when someone new comes in, they can give them
something that has worked for someone else.
DH: Do you have a medical marijuana permit?
MT: I am not a medical marijuana patient. [But] I don't think
I should have to have a doctor's recommendation to saddle up to a bar
to get a beer. I don't think as an adult I should have to have a
recommendation to use marijuana.
If I can legally purchase a case of beer, there's no reason I
shouldn't be able to use a less harmful substance to relax and recreate.
DH: What do your parents think of your job?
MT: They're incredibly supportive. My mother, much like many
parents, would rather I used marijuana as a college student than binge
drink. My parents had my grade school DARE essay about the dangers of
drug use framed for me after legalizing marijuana in Denver.
DH: Are Denver cops following that law, which makes marijuana use a low priority arrest?
MT: Yes and no. We did see a drop in marijuana citations in
2008, but the fact is one is too many. The people of this city have
made it abundantly clear adults should not face penalties for using a
substance that's safer than alcohol.
DH: What would you tell your own kid about marijuana use?
MT: I will say you're not allowed to have sex yet, you're not
allowed to drink yet or to sign contracts. You are my child and I'm
being honest, this is not a substance you should be using. It could harm development of your brain. It could
result in you doing worse in school should you start abusing it. But I
will also say this substance is safer than alcohol and if you drink too
much, it will kill you. You can't go wrong with the facts, and that's
not what's going on right now.
DH: Would legalization help the economy?
MT: Absolutely. Alcohol is a $131 billion industry and
marijuana is projected at $113 billion, which I think is conservative.
Just like with alcohol, we would need people to produce the raw
product, we would need truck drivers to drive it from one place to
another. There are so many jobs. I'm starting to get calls from all of
these lobbyist sharks. They're seeing it's a business.
DH: Are you going to run for office?
MT: Who knows? We'll see.
DH: Do you drink?
MT: Absolutely. I drink recreationally. For the most part,
small amounts at a time. People think we're against alcohol because we
talk about the dangers of it.
DH: Do you smoke pot often?
MT: "Often"? You jumped to "often" instead of "do I smoke at
all"? I think it's ridiculous that I'm allowed to consume alcohol and
unable to use a far safer substance. That's all I'll say about it.
DH: We'll just assume you do it anyway ... .
MT: A lot of people think I don't. I never talk about it. I'm
not one to stand in front of the Capitol smoking joints and think I'm
doing something for the cause.